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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:10 am 
D-A is a silly bum.


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Their helpfile says they are. Perhaps the helpfile should be changed then. Besides me bring wrong about another claim has no real basis about the truth of this one.

Again you attack my person as a means of asserting the truth of your claim, which is an ad homiem. Also my past claims you use as a way of asserting that I must be wrong on this, also an illogical fallacy. You are also appealing to tradition, just because it was that way for some long does not mean it should be.

Perhaps you should re-evaluate why you choose to keep calling me stupid? You also tend to fall prey to the confirmation bias. Anything that supports your claims you accept and preach readily, but if something else doesnt it is ignored, marginalized, or you attack the person presenting such a claim as a means to discredit it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:28 am 
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What part of NO COST ENDLESS BUFFS don't you understand?

It's not rocket science to understand how outrageously powerful this is, and how the balance of the game gets screwed when certain tribunals are allowed to it and others don't. Seriously now, you have to be stupid to not understand that.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:30 am 
You also have to be stupid to not understand that the buffs from Seranayim last about 5 minutes. OH DAMN I GOT 5 MINUTES TO KILLZ PEEPZ!

Unlike Varessa, whose spell timer is like half an hour.


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All must be removed. Because they are without any cost.

Even if they last for 1 tick, they must still all be removed.


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DA, I acknowledge that other tribunals get things that the BH does not. Do you not also see that you get things they do not? Why should you have access to everything they do when they cannot get everything you do?


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I was tempted to start a thread in gameplay about balancing tribunals, but it would go way out of line as usual.

The thread will be opened in the faction leader section for things to get balanced.

I can assure you though, as someone who knows what most tribunals get, overall the Black Hand gets the shaft(along with the Talons).


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That means endless amounts of buffs to endless amounts of PCs, no concentration/mana upkeep needed, just every spell is on a timer.


That is a BIG "just". Concentration NPCs>timer for me. Also I'm almost sure if nothing has changed, that GoA cannot charm. If they could, all these discussions in the forums about the most powerful tribunal would be a complete joke. Not that they aren't now. If Josephus implies that most tribunals are balanced then I agree with him. It's not pure luck that there is only one thing that the pbase agrees concerning the tribunals. And that is the Talons' buff (slightly and due to silly things like the missing no-summon flag of balacha, the lack of a second NPC tank, etc etc).


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GoA has charm abilities.

They used to use that for access to all religion spells, when they were available. I'm sure Lolth or some other recent GoA player can tell that clearly.

Also, concentration NPCs is not endless buffs. Sure it's better because it never ends if you are careful, but then again, it's a limited amount of buffs that the NPCs can concentrate on. Percer for example can give prayer/bless to 3 groups of 9 PCs, then enchant their weapons/armor and open a few gates, just for fun. Why? Because all the buffs that he gives don't take away concentration.


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Percer can also be summoned/gated to :P


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