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Haste not granting bonus dex?
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Author:  Gilgon [ Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:16 am ]
Post subject:  Haste not granting bonus dex?

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 o [Attributes] Bryce Von Adune - High Knight of Logic                       o
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 o    Status: Grand Master(1)   Race: Human            Class: Paladin        o
 o       Age: 23                 Sex: Male              Size: Medium         o
 o Alignment: Principled   Handiness: Left handed   Religion: Ain-scale      o
 o      Born: Old Forces 28, 1421                   Birthday: 295 days       o
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 o Carrying capacity: 20 items with a maximum weight of 475.0 pounds.        o
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[HP:100%] [ME: 84%] [PE: 93%]
> You get a few star-shaped blue flowers from a flowing cloak of chain link.

[HP:100%] [ME: 84%] [PE: 93%]
>
eat star
You eat a few star-shaped blue flowers.
You feel yourself moving more quickly.

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 o [Attributes] Bryce Von Adune - High Knight of Logic                       o
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 o    Status: Grand Master(1)   Race: Human            Class: Paladin        o
 o       Age: 23                 Sex: Male              Size: Medium         o
 o Alignment: Principled   Handiness: Left handed   Religion: Ain-scale      o
 o      Born: Old Forces 28, 1421                   Birthday: 295 days       o
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 o       DEX: Nimble             CON: Durable            CHA: Influential    o
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 o Carrying capacity: 20 items with a maximum weight of 475.0 pounds.        o
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 o [Affects] Bryce Von Adune - High Knight of Logic                          o
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 o Affect: 'haste' - enhancement bonus to weapon speed                       o
 o Affect: 'haste' - enhancement bonus to peak dexterity                     o
 o Affect: 'haste' - enhancement bonus to dexterity                          o
 o Affect: 'detect invis'                                                    o
 o Affect: 'bless' - morale bonus to reflex                                  o
 o Affect: 'bless' - morale bonus to fortitude                               o
 o Affect: 'bless' - morale bonus to willpower                               o
 o Affect: 'bless' - morale bonus to weapon accuracy                         o
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This is a few star-shaped blue flowers, a tiny plant pill, weighing
approximately 0 lbs.  The pill has strong spells of haste.  It is of above
average quality and is worth approximately 120 silver. 


As of 2-3 days ago it granted 3dex over peak...? Strong GS herb is only granting 1str now, so maybe this is a game wide massive change with no note about it. For the record, I am judging dexterity by carrying capacity and keyword here. Carrying capacity remained at 20. I was judging strength by maximum weight when I tested it.

Author:  Edoras [ Sat Jun 11, 2016 8:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Haste not granting bonus dex?

Haste doesn't stack with added dex onto jewelry, just innate dex. Do you have enchanted dex to get to 20 carrying capacity?

Same with GS by the way.

Author:  theDrifter [ Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Haste not granting bonus dex?

Edoras wrote:
Haste doesn't stack with added dex onto jewelry, just innate dex. Do you have enchanted dex to get to 20 carrying capacity?

Same with GS by the way.


This is the kind of information that should be available in an OOC guide somewhere. The same guide will let you know that your carrying capacity equals your dex score and that 25 is the maximum dex any character can achieve. My character shouldn't need to be an in-game scholar for me to know this info. I would prefer if this guide were written by someone with access to the actual code to prevent misinformation being spread, or confusion over outdated info.

Author:  Edoras [ Sat Jun 11, 2016 5:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Haste not granting bonus dex?

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=24608

That's Finney's guide and it does mention it.

Author:  theDrifter [ Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Haste not granting bonus dex?

I'm sure that is a great guide, but just scanning through it, I don't see where he lists what racial maximums are. Lots of advice to keep things x away from maximum, but how do you know what the max is?

And to be honest, I don't see where it says anything about haste/GS not working with enchanted dex. I see recommendations for a barb to max them.. is that what you're referring to? I don't see anything about dex=carrying capacity either.

I think you know what I'm asking for. An infodump thread isn't going to kill the game, but would benefit a lot of people. Should the first step of a new player to SK be to roll a character of every race and keep rerolling until you figure out what the racial maxes are?

Author:  patrisaurus [ Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Haste not granting bonus dex?

Yes, that is a great tactical choice on the new player's part and a key component of the SK experience! Once he's finished, those tactics can collide with the role play of the hall of creation questions to form an appropriate character!

Author:  Gilgon [ Sun Jun 12, 2016 10:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Haste not granting bonus dex?

apparently not a bug, just a terrible design choice. Ignore this thread

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