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 Post subject: Ideas
PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:37 pm 
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Hello. I'm not sure how to phrase this but I wanted to see how you thought of these ideas as I break down my view of SK and how the design affects players. It might be late in the game, but I figured I would try.

These are my personal observations from what I have seen, so feel free to correct me or counter my statements if your opinion does not match up with my own.

I've spoken to players and have seen many times that people have decided to quit playing over loss of gear, and I suppose that would be related to the time it takes to recover. The pk scene revolves around conflict but many people have been driven away from that aspect due to the competitiveness of other players and the potential to have your things taken. PvP has obviously slowed down, but the general feel was that people avoided pk or only chose to engage when they felt they had an advantage. The mentality among a few was also that it lessened your chances of being crippled by jloots if you jlooted the other first. There was also the hoarding mentality which some might say is an adaptive aspect of evolution and it's subjective. In the end, it leads to items not being used or only used by the same person who knows the process of obtaining it. As of now the benefits and incentives for PK/looting come at the expense of loss from another and potential loss of a player who has limited time to even play.

In the PvE aspect, end-game dungeons and exploration have led to instances where a mistake can lead to hours of lost time and lost gear on top of recovery time. Eventually it sometimes becomes an issue of finding someone who knows about the area you want to explore before you commit. Hopefully by someone willing to part with the knowledge.

I have a few ideas but these also come with drawbacks but the idea is to ease the burden of exploration, gear loss and to make PK less harsh.

First, implement an item carried cap in total items and prevent gear loss and jlooting. Players will then have to balance out their choices of food/consumables etc. Although I don't want to see everyone wearing the same OP set of gear, it would at least let you know where you need to balance other sets/items. It also solves the issues above, less consequences for PvP and exploration would encourage it a bit more.

The item cap also prevents loot overload from causing isssues with the game. Imagine being able to test out build theories in pk without being set back because you aren't skilled 'yet' and lost. The current system hinders newcomers in pvp or even moderately skilled players if the decision to take another persons gear is left up to the other person.

There would also be an incentive to PK in the form of points and diminishing points per same person killed to prevent gaming the system and trolling. Points can be used at a vendor who sells XYZ for that currency.

My second idea is to bring back every tribunal in its original form, allowing players to utilize gate/rift/enchanting/buffs. You will have more diverse builds this way and also open up more room for different pvp scenarios. This would allow melee oriented classes to have incentive to build around these buffs vs the current system, which feels like it rewards caster classes and NPC guards are used as tanks. It's ok to rely on other people for these kinds of buffs/utility spells, but there will be instances where your faction just doesn't have mages, or maybe you are a deep-elf and everyone might be playing light aura races/classes.

Feel free to chime in or offer up more ideas. Like I said, it might be too late, but I think this would improve the game experience for players, moreso the newer ones. Text based games are already kind of daunting, so maybe this could be done temporarily as an experiment? If it doesn't happen, at least we tried :drunk:


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 Post subject: Re: Ideas
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:19 am 
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I like the idea of your gear, equipped only, returning to your body upon resurrection. HOWEVER, that should not include items looted or dropped from your corpse after death, to ensure PVP benefits can prevail. That would ensure PVP benefits exist, and would make PVE and solo more attractive!

Might not be hard to implement in fact, it could possibly be scripted on a NPC! Just need a NPC in each major city that can take money for the Paladin spell "Call Armor", at a decent but not cheap price for a mentor+ level character.

2nd idea, a global OOC chat channel that can be turned on/off with an "auto ..." command, with the admins being able to disable any abusers or spammers. It would ideally log everything for the admins to review if necessary.

I think the "Call Armor" shop idea would be the easiest and scriptable, and should be tried! The global OOC chat idea may not be worth it, but could be nice.

My two cents.

EDIT: Also, as to not diminish the Paladin spell for Paladins, allow them to cast it on others. Maybe give it to Hellions too.


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 Post subject: Re: Ideas
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:31 pm 
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Lol @ ideas that require a code change.


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 Post subject: Re: Ideas
PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:51 am 
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I feel as if this post is a few years too late...


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 Post subject: Re: Ideas
PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:09 am 
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I wish <3


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 Post subject: Re: Ideas
PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 5:24 am 
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Tragonis wrote:
Lol @ ideas that require a code change.


SK will never see a code update ever again


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 3:40 am 
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yrangol wrote:
Tragonis wrote:
Lol @ ideas that require a code change.


SK will never see a code update ever again



Never know. One day Dulrik will retire and have nothing better to do and have all these years of ideas and what-if's that have been weighing on him.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:26 pm 
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i didn't know https://shatteredkingdoms.org/time existed until I saw posts about it being missing so I looked it up on the wayback machine and now i really want it to be restored.


[handing out "fix /time" shirts]


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:16 pm 
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fi_nikki wrote:
i didn't know https://shatteredkingdoms.org/time" target="_BLANK" target="_BLANK existed until I saw posts about it being missing so I looked it up on the wayback machine and now i really want it to be restored.


[handing out "fix /time" shirts]

Hey, I made this some time ago http://sk-time.viaticum.ca/. It seems to be out a bit now and I'm actually willing to take a look and fix it!

Should probably spring the money for a SSL certificate while at it, they aren't too expensive.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:18 pm 
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Actually pretty sure it is a daylight savings issue. Stupid daylight savings.


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