Shattered Kingdoms

Alright, I've played two Ain dark aura priests. Both have aided light aura chars, including rezzes. Both have also been rezzed by light aura priests.

As far as aiding and rezzing on my part, the dark idea of order was the guiding principle. I even often told the lightie to remember who aided them and not fall into the "heretics' trap".

As far as being rezzed by lighties, they were weak-minded people who were beneath contempt and were to be used as I saw fit, or they proved to my characters that they understood order and disdained heretics.

While I fully understand this is arguing on an RP basis, I feel it fully fits in an argument against any draconian hard-code.

Regarding the ease in which some priests rez, that would depend heavily on the religion. I see no difficulty in some priests insta-rezzing if it fits the religion. I also see no difficulty in forcing the dead to jump through hoops, as I did when I played my yoda-esque priestess.

Concerning the possible solutions, I think the heart racing idea is a substantial step in the right direction. Paralyze or headbutt features would be problematic in the sense that priests expect a quick and proper respect for the god who gave them life. This delay in itself could easily be a problem. I do like the paralyze or headbutt features for when a priest wants to send a barbarian or mercenary back to the river as those two classes can oftentimes easily handle a priest while naked. A compromise solution would be to allow a person to speak, emote, social but not able to travel or defend him/herself during the heart-racing time after rez. Permitting the player to wear an (about) item for RP purposes (to cover up nakedness) while not permitting the player from wearing anything else due to some sort of lethargy could also be useful for times when they need dispatched.

Anyhow, that's my two coppers.

I do both of these. For me it really depends on how fast the person catches on to what I'm looking for from the dead person, which is really quite simple when you stop to think about it for a minute or two. I won't give it away here because I'll have to come up with excuses to ask more questions and which questions to ask once all the dark folk figure me out...

Pushing40 and Baraka have both stated somewhat (without necessarily giving away IC details) they have IC reasons for Rezzing an opposite aura'd character, through RP they have initiated. I really feel hard coding penalties to them for doing so would limit their RP considerably. Who wants to get penalties for a style of RP? There are already plenty of ways a character loses XP. Any other way to gain life, if I'm not mistaken will cost you XP. So it's not the hard coding that has to be done, it's the pbase has to push people to RP the rez instead of instarezzing for ooc means.

Again, if you believe this is happening send a pm to an IMM, let them investigate it, but don't push for hard coding that would truly limit ones rp, because noone wants to lose XP. By punishing a priest to stick to their aura only, you are in fact placing limits on their RP.

I reread this entire thing...

I like what dulrik said... make the change only affect ress...
(forgot who brought this up) make it so the ress of different aura cost XP....
give priest a spell to detect the aura of the spirit....
Also I think that a added XP bonus should be made to ressing people in your own faith...

Limits No ones RP... they can still ress who they want.... if they dont want to pay the XP let them raise dead... People can still lie to the priest if he is dumb enough not to check the spirit's aura..... and the additional XP for ressing your own faith Should help conter act the ressing of other aura charactors...

Yeah I don't really like the idea of priests losing xp for casting rez, especialy for dark aura priest. I mean, I've known plenty of dark aura priest who would rez lighties just so that the lightie owed them one or did so in exchange for a terrible price from that person. Inidil being one of these priests, my priest Sade as well. And one the lighty side, I've accidently killed newbies before that were dark aura and had priests of my faith rez them (when i had my paladin). Its not fair for the newbie to have to lose xp cause I killed them nor is it fair that the priest have to lose xp to help a newbie.

Rez isn't broke. There is absolutly nothing wrong with the current system. And I actually used breath of life all the time with my warlock. People use the other routes to life quite a bit.

Resurrection is fine as is. The only change I would possibly support is adding the inability to move and/or recall immediately to allow for a bit of RP AFTER the resurrection if the priest/ess wants it to be there.

I hope everyone realizes that when you're are asking for a resurrection, you are asking for not only the ultimate blessing of that priest's patron god/ess, but you are asking a favor of the priest. They are potentially putting themselves in harm's way even considering resurrecting anyone at all, regardless of aura conflicts. I've spoken to enough priests who have brought people back and been killed for it or because of it lately to understand this, and though I've never heard of it being done, I would imagine any immortal could take exception to a priest in their faith bringing back 'the wrong person' and cursing or blemishing them.

Enough people taking advantage of a priest's generosity could very well lead to a prominent priest/ess not granting resurrections, and I suggest you keep that in mind when you consider imposing an XP penalty of ANY kind upon priests for helping others. There are few enough priests as it is.

Well said Baraka.

You know, I thought this post would help this no-name giving epidemic, but it hasn't. ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS! give your name in the first tell. I'm going to start yelling at people who don't henceforth.

I'm gonna start yelling at people who don't hold 'spirit sight' 24/7.

You're the one dead. I'll win this battle. ^.^