Shattered Kingdoms

That seems a little steep for experience lost. In a kingdom war, you can rack up a lot of crimes really really really fast. I do not exaggerate when I saw that slayne was wanted for over 140 crimes in more than one country. That would be 14 levels of experience lost at 1 level per 10.

I've been on raids where the outlaw memory list (remember these don't even include your own crimes) numbered well over a 100 remembered crimes. If a group of nine splatters in a kingdom and ends up in jail, it'd be a shame if your entire cabal had to lose a level to get out in a reasonable amount of time.

I like Peso's suggestion in the other thread D. You should really check that out. I'm going to add to it in a bit.

You missed the entire suggestion then. There are caps on how much xp you can lose and how much jail time you get. I said that each crime comes with an xp loss, but it caps out at 1 or 2 lvls. That was my suggestion.

I really don't like XP loss as a mechanic.

Jumping on this bandwagon.

I'll tell you what. If XP at those levels was something you can access solo, I'd be almost okay with it.

But if you need to go to hell and back with a group of 3 or more people and spend hours there to get what you lost, no thanks.

This would further create the problem that newer characters that are just GMing will find the high-end leveling areas swamped with those who have lost levels to jailtime.

Heavily agreeing here. Familiarity code makes XP loss even more painful.

I would rather grind back up to GM than sit more than 30mins in a SK jail. It is boring as hell. Also, it would make GM more of a prize than must.

What about the group familiarity code? It encourages you to take new people to those areas you're already familiar(+) with. You actually get experience as if you just discovered it if they're within 10 levels of you. Are you simply overlooking that part for your convenience?

Still doesn't make XP loss a good mechanic. Once I'm done leveling, I never ever want to be forced to do it again - plain and simple.

Sit in the jail then and enjoy the sentence until someone breaks you out. After all your actions lead to that in the first place.

I agree with a high xp penalty, but I think there should be a cap somewhere anyway. For example not more than 5 levels, no matter if you have 80 days in jail or 250.